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Every week, members of the Dark Label Music community ship work, sign artists and close deals. These are their stories, shared in their own words.Members of the community ship work, sign artists and close deals, in their own words.

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  1. Pete
    Pete

    Fresh Finds playlist + appreciation

    Hi all - one of my clients had his single we co-wrote and I produced/mixed added to Fresh Finds out here in Australia today! Super stoked for him as it was the first of his songs that's been added to a playlist like this. I'm into outreach this week and have been really appreciating the knowledge and advice in the replays, dm's and classroom - THANKS EVERYONE! https://open.spotify.com/track/7KUgDyO9IXEHDBp3yDQ5p0?si=39841e40059f411e

    8 likes3 comments
    1. Daniel
      Daniel

      Sep '23 (edited)Nice one Pete! Australia churns out some pretty killer singers!

    2. Kensaye
      Kensaye

      Sep '23Congrats my G

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    1. Philip
      Philip

      Sep '23Nice one bro!!

  2. Chris

    Remix Contest

    So I entered that remix contest that Seids was running and turns out I actually won! I only spent a few hours on it and definitely didn't expect to win but the top prize was $1000 so I gave it a go. You can check it out here if you want to listen: https://fadr.com/colthillmusic/64d12c6855b26aad5eb9370c Definitely a nice start to Friday!

    12 likes13 comments
    1. Kensaye
      Kensaye

      Sep '23Smashed it. Remix is isck! Congrats bro

    2. Aaron
      Aaron

      Sep '23awesome Chris!

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    1. Chris

      Sep '23@Rowan Thanks so much dude!!

    2. Rowan

      Sep '23Killer job man! Love the remix!

    3. Chris

      Sep '23@Aaron Cheers Aaron!

    4. Chris

      Sep '23@Peter Thanks man!

    5. Peter
      Peter

      Sep '23amazing !! congrats !!!

    6. Chris

      Sep '23@Isaiah Thanks so much!

    7. Christian
      Christian

      Sep '23@Chris Nice, thank you!

    8. Isaiah
      Isaiah

      Sep 'ude let's go! that's awesome news. congratulations for sure

    9. Chris

      Sep '23@Christian Thanks!! I think I just knew exactly what I wanted to do with it! ๐Ÿ˜‚ Not often a project is that fast but it was a remix so the vocal was there to follow haha. For actual productions I try and get a melody idea first. I find it so much easier to build around that! Have go to samples ready, can always swap them after. Also have a template for production. Just blank channels where things go etc. Serum loaded, piano loaded, guitar amp loaded. Vocal chain on a channel. Takes away all the setup faff and just delete what you donโ€™t need!

    10. Christian
      Christian

      Sep '23Amazing! A few hours?! Workflow tips please ๐Ÿ˜…

    11. Chris

      Sep '23@Kensaye Thanks brother!

  3. Sebastian
    Sebastian

    Slow Lane Win

    #wins this is my first win I'm posting on here, very excited haha. I've been networking (both in person and online) for MANY months now trying to break into different scenes around LA, and it's finally starting to pay off. The other day I randomly got a dm from an artist manager that said he "heard I was the guy to work with in LA" for when he and his artist were in town from NY. The singer is a really dope hyperpop artist and is super connected to other bigger artists and managers as well. Real... See more

    23 likes18 comments
    1. Daniel
      Daniel

      Sep '23Love it @Sebastian - keep it up!

    2. Matt
      Matt

      Sep '23 (edited)Heck yeah Sebs! Rooting for ya! Also, add me on WhatsApp so I can put you in the group of Dark Label producers who are in LA!

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    1. Kensaye
      Kensaye

      Sep '23congrats!

    2. Aaron
      Aaron

      Sep '23Love this congrats man! Stay focussed, do your thing and itโ€™ll happen - letโ€™s goooo!!

    3. Kevin
      Kevin

      Sep '23awesome dude congrats! glad to hear the long game is working. would also love to hear what hyperpop stuff you've done, i do similar stuff sometimes

    4. Kevin
      Kevin

      Oct 'uld actually also be interested to know what your best strategies are for IRL networking. how have you mostly been approaching that @Sebastian ?

    5. Sebastian
      Sebastian

      Sep '23@Daniel Thank you Daniel!

    6. James
      James

      Sep '23SO stoked for you man. That's awesome and I'm glad we got to chat about it on the stream today!

    7. Sebastian
      Sebastian

      Sep '23@James Thanks brotha! Thanks for helping out on another amazing stream btw!

    8. Matt
      Matt

      Sep '23Love to hear this! That's awesome man!

    9. Sebastian
      Sebastian

      Sep '23@Matt Thanks Matt!

    10. Sebastian
      Sebastian

      Sep '23@Wel Thank you Wel!

    11. Isaiah
      Isaiah

      Sep '23that's so sick dude! heard you mention a slow lane win on the stream yesterday. well done ๐Ÿ™Œ

    12. Sebastian
      Sebastian

      Sep '23@Isaiah Thanks man Isaiah, I'm suuper stoked about this one

    13. Sebastian
      Sebastian

      Sep '23@Aaron Thank you Aaron! ๐Ÿ“ˆ

    14. Jillian
      Jillian

      Sep '23Congrats Sebastian, this is so exciting!!

    15. Sebastian
      Sebastian

      Sep '23@Jillian Thanks Jillian! :)

    16. Sebastian
      Sebastian

      Sep '23@Matt Thanks! Ok, will add you in a bit!

  4. Rowan

    IRL Hangs

    Got to meet a fellow dark label-ian! Dark label-ite? More importantly, @Jesse is - great hang, makes killer music, and was kind enough to talk content over lunch. Super thankful for this group and stoked for the grind ๐Ÿ™

    13 likes5 comments
    1. Jesse
      Jesse

      Sep '23Man it was great hanging out!

    2. Matt
      Matt

      Sep '23Where were yโ€™all!? I know RowRow is out there, Jesse Jewels ๐Ÿ’Ž, weโ€™re you in Montana!?

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    1. Daniel
      Daniel

      Sep '23Right on!

    2. Jesse
      Jesse

      Sep '23@Matt I'm in South Carolina

    3. James
      James

      Sep '23 (edited)Love to see it!

  5. Denys
    Denys

    A First New Client with new rates!

    Soo, sharing this not that longer after Philip's big client win haha!! Finally got my first great project with a new client of $1200 in total. Split into 4 payments every fortnight. 1 Full Production from scratch and 2 remakes of already existing songs! Didn't want to share this one until I receive the 1st deposit, and I just got it! Guys, I pretty much agree with every single word under Philip's post haha, so wanna join that one! Honestly, for me, it feels really great considering that back in ... See more

    17 likes22 comments
    1. Denys
      Denys

      Aug '23@Matt Matt!! The Rose that Grew from Concrete, right?? Thank you!! ๐Ÿ™โค๏ธNeed to get on another call with you whenever you can!

    2. Daniel
      Daniel

      Aug '23And there it is. So pumped for you @Denys! Phenomenal job battling those demons and getting your head back in the game despite less than ideal circumstances. Inspiring to say the least!

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    1. Peter
      Peter

      Aug '23Awesome man !! Congrats ๐Ÿ™Œ

    2. Denys
      Denys

      Aug '23@Peter Peter, thank you!!

    3. Denys
      Denys

      Aug '23@Andrew Andrew, thank you very much! Hopefully see you later today in 3 hours!

    4. Kensaye
      Kensaye

      Aug '23Proud of you my bro.

    5. Denys
      Denys

      Aug '23@Kensaye Thank you very much, brother ๐Ÿ™

    6. Christian
      Christian

      Aug '23Nice one Denys! The first of many for sure!

    7. Denys
      Denys

      Aug '23@Christian Christian, thank youuuuu!!

    8. Philip
      Philip

      Aug '23Amazing man! Congrats, this is huge. So happy for you and you totally deserve this. You transformation over the last month has been phenomenal. Incredible work mate.

    9. Denys
      Denys

      Aug '23@Philip Philip! It has been such a mental rollercoaster, that's for sure!, but yep man, let's see where life gets us! Appreciate it, my friend!!

    10. James
      James

      Aug '23Lets goooooooo!!!!! way to get after it Denys!!!!

    11. Denys
      Denys

      Aug '23@James Thank you, James ๐Ÿ™

    12. Denys
      Denys

      Aug '23@Adam Appreciate it, Adam ๐Ÿ™๐Ÿ™

    13. Adam
      Adam

      Aug '23Awesome job Denys!!

    14. Matt
      Matt

      Aug '23Iโ€™m so proud of you, and so happy all the crap youโ€™ve been dealing with, inside and outside your head, youโ€™ve come out on top. Itโ€™s really effinโ€™ great Denys. Iโ€™m really proud of you, and this empowers me. Thanks man

    15. Denys
      Denys

      Aug '23@Brad Thank you, Brad!

    16. Isaiah
      Isaiah

      Aug '23DUDE let's go! i know it's been a heck of a trip for you, i'm glad to see you get this. really speaks to your longevity and your persistence, well done man

    17. Denys
      Denys

      Aug '23@Isaiah Isaiah, thank you very much, I really appreciate it!!

    18. Brad
      Brad

      Aug '23Congrats, really great!! Hard work pays off. As the saying goes 'Never never never give up!'.

    19. Philip
      Philip

      Aug '23@Denys you got this bro

    20. Denys
      Denys

      Aug '23@Daniel Thank you, Dan!!!

  6. Jeremy
    Jeremy

    Give what the artist wants

    Just wanted to come here to tell a little story that JUST happened to me yesterday. I met a really good artist last year that studied at Stargate's school in Norway and we immediately bonded. At the time he was already working with another producer and I didn't want to overstep cause i knew the guy. A couple of weeks ago I called to come and write some topelines for another project and showed him some songs i was working and he freaked out at how much he loved the production so he asked me to do... See more

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    1. Jeremy
      Jeremy

      Aug '23@Isaiah Totally!

    2. James
      James

      Aug '23So so so good

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    1. Jamie
      Jamie

      Aug '23Thanks mate!!

    2. Isaiah
      Isaiah

      Aug '23understanding is where it starts man! artists need somebody to truly get theirs and their vision, and if you can do that, they'll stick with you

    3. Daniel
      Daniel

      Aug '23Love this story Jeremy thanks for sharing!

  7. Jesse
    Jesse

    #wins

    Recently locked in a local artist for a full song production at my full rate (doing a payment plan that worked for her), just landed a finishing production + mix and master client for more than I've ever charged for that service, have a client scheduled to start at the beginning of next month and locked in a client that I make beats for on a monthly retainer (testing that model out for this particular client). Also moving into my first ever commercial studio space very soon (as soon as the contr... See more

    20 likes9 comments
    1. Daniel
      Daniel

      Aug '23lol @ the contractor comment. Nice job man - excited for the new spot!

    2. James
      James

      Sep '23Nice work!!!

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    1. Kensaye
      Kensaye

      Sep '23On it my broooo! well done!

    2. Fraser
      Fraser

      Aug '23Congrats man! Excited to hear about the new space as well.

    3. Jesse
      Jesse

      Aug '23@Imad righttttt ๐Ÿ˜‚

    4. Isaiah
      Isaiah

      Aug '23congratulations dude! that's awesome. glad to see you moving up

    5. Philip
      Philip

      Aug '23nice one mate!

    6. Jesse
      Jesse

      Aug '23@Daniel Yeah man I'm hyped about it

    7. Aaron
      Aaron

      Aug '23Nice work Jesse!

  8. Rowan

    First Full Length Album

    Got my first full-length album starting in January! We just finished his first single and are doing two more singles before the year is up. Still in a bit of a lull right now, but the momentum is building!

    18 likes12 comments
    1. Konner

      Aug '23Beautiful! Job well done!!

    2. Denys
      Denys

      Aug '23Phenomenal, bro!!

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    1. Matt
      Matt

      Aug '23There we go

    2. Rowan

      Aug '23@Philip thanks homie ๐Ÿ™

    3. Philip
      Philip

      Aug '23Mad mate, thatโ€™s sick! Congrats ๐Ÿ‘

    4. Philip
      Philip

      Aug '23@Rowan โ€œwilling to fail until I found a pattern that worksโ€ - thatโ€™s everything right there

    5. Rowan

      Aug '23Honestly, about 3 weeks ago I hit a bit breaking point because I had been juggling too much between the day job, incoming clients, and content. I took a week off. Then I jumped back on and did the bare minimum. Then a week later, another client signed up. @Daniel 's post about constancy really stuck with me and I knew I just needed to keep showing up.I also think @James is a low-key wizard. When I messaged him about why some of my Instagram DMs weren't working I realized I was b... See more

    6. Rowan

      Aug '23@Daniel agreed! I have another artists single wrapping and he already wants more. And based on sales calls I should have two new clients starting in September! It's a slow game but it's coming!

    7. Daniel
      Daniel

      Aug '23That's amazing @Rowan! Nice one. Sounds like a great long term client - those are the best :)

    8. Daniel
      Daniel

      Aug '23@Rowan There he is!

    9. Daniel
      Daniel

      Aug '23If ya get a chance... Share some of your take-a-ways / lessons from the process for the others :)

    10. Daniel
      Daniel

      Aug '23@Rowan Thanks for sharing! @James is 100% a wizard lol

  9. Philip
    Philip

    Wins

    So itโ€™s taken about four months of learning and personal development, but Iโ€™m happy to say that within the last week Iโ€™ve managed to secure not only my first client, but a second one too! Both four track EP projects, ยฃ4800 a piece, splitting payments over a monthly basis. Iโ€™ve worked in music all my life, though the act of sustainability being paid for production has always remained elusive. I'd built up the ideal of what I knew I was capable of doing, but with no tangible way or plan of getting ... See more

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    1. Philip
      Philip

      Aug '23@Kamil thanks mate

    2. Philip
      Philip

      Aug '23@James thanks mate! Itโ€™s certainly been a journey

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    1. Daniel
      Daniel

      Aug '23 (edited)Proud of ya @Philip! Knew this moment was going to be here any day now. You are proof that just sticking to the process and seeing it through works. Despite having a hectic schedule, a child on the way, and working big 12-14 hour shifts at your other gig you... 1) Squeeze in focus work when you can 2) Track your metrics 3) Show up to calls to ask questions and 4) Lean into other DL producers for peer support. This is how this community was designed to work and thanks for proving that. Y... See more

    2. Philip
      Philip

      Aug '23@Adam thanks mate

    3. Adam
      Adam

      Aug '23Congrats Phil and thanks for the inspiration! Well earned! :)

    4. Philip
      Philip

      Aug '23@Jamie my pleasure bro, felt like it warranted more than just the win, cos I think itโ€™s so much more of journey for most of us and weโ€™re all dealing with a lot of the same hurdles. And thanks mate much appreciated

    5. Jamie
      Jamie

      Aug '23Amazing Phil, thanks for writing it up so well too! Congrats to all 3 of you :)

    6. Philip
      Philip

      Aug '23@Denys thanks so much man, I couldnโ€™t agree more, just showing up to meetings and talking to other makes a huge difference. Keep us informed, youโ€™ve got this bro.

    7. Philip
      Philip

      Aug '23@Konner thanks mate

    8. Philip
      Philip

      Aug '23@Isaiah 100% once you break that wall and "get it", you get it! You've got this bro

    9. Isaiah
      Isaiah

      Aug '23congratulations dude! you're living proof for us that haven't reached it yet that it's not only possible, it's just a matter of time. i'm glad to see you get this

    10. Philip
      Philip

      Aug '23@Kensaye yes! Thanks mate

    11. Kensaye
      Kensaye

      Aug '23Amazing Phil. So inspiring.. Congrats. Let the thriving commence.

    12. Philip
      Philip

      Aug '23@Kevin thanks bro!

    13. Kevin
      Kevin

      Aug '23that's awesome philip!! congrats bro

    14. Philip
      Philip

      Aug '23@Rowan yeah! Thanks mate

    15. Jesse
      Jesse

      Aug '23Heck yeah bro! Congrats ๐Ÿ”ฅ

    16. Philip
      Philip

      Aug '23@Jesse Thanks bro!

    17. Matt
      Matt

      Aug '23This makes me really happy homie

    18. Philip
      Philip

      Aug '23@Matt awwwww thanks bro

    19. Philip
      Philip

      Aug '23@Andrew yes! Thanks mate

    20. Matt
      Matt

      Aug '23@Daniel the best kind of comment one can get from BDG.Celebrating your success Philly Dee!! Cheers ๐Ÿป!!!

    21. Philip
      Philip

      Aug '23@Daniel Yes! Itโ€™s been a journey, but honestly having a wealth of people and knowledge here has been indispensable. I can save weeks of talking to someone here for 10 minutes. Youโ€™ve created something great, that is not only value to us all as clients but in turn our clients too. Thank you.

    22. Philip
      Philip

      Aug '23@Aaron thanks bro!

    23. Christian
      Christian

      Aug '23Congratulations, Philโ€”this is great to hear! I've learned a lot from listening to your experiences so far, and it's been encouraging. Excited to hear about what other opportunities will be coming your way!

    24. Denys
      Denys

      Aug '23Philip!! This is so freaking dope, man!! Congratulations on this win and this is SUPER inspiring! I love our discussions on the streams and appreciate you being around! The most valuable thing I've noticed is that being here in Dark Label among all of the people here is making SO MUCH change to my mindset, I can't really express it! It is quite a slow but consistent change and I'm honestly happy to be here and to see people winning! Hopefully, about to close my first deal as well, but don't wann... See more

    25. Aaron
      Aaron

      Aug '23This is awesome to hear Phil, nice work mate!

    26. Philip
      Philip

      Aug '23@Christian youโ€™ve got this bro. Canโ€™t remember if youโ€™re at the outreach stage yet, but once you are, commit to what you feasibly can achieve and you might find you really enjoy it. Itโ€™s actually been good to having other life stuff going on through the whole learning outreach/sales process. Itโ€™s meant that the time I put aside to spend on my business has been predominantly time implementing everything we learn here, rather than spending time learning more about the music side of thing li... See more

    27. Christian
      Christian

      Aug '23@Philip Thanks so much for thisโ€”such a good way of looking at it! I'll be outreaching soon, hopefullyโ€”a little nervous but looking forward to it.

    28. Jason
      Jason

      Aug '23Amazing, congratulations!! Iโ€™m stoked for you, and motivated to keep going. ๐Ÿ™Œ๐Ÿผ

    29. James
      James

      Aug '23So good Phil!!! Way to get after it. So impressed with the way you've just stuck with it and found the ways that make sense for you to approach things. It's only up from here๐Ÿ™

  10. Matt
    Matt

    4 casuals in the next 5 days, WDYD?

    It went well enough in the DMs for four singers to each agree to a casual call. So, the next step is to get em wanting a proof session. If this was you, What Do You Do in these upcoming conversations to get them wanting and comfortable for a proof session???

    8 likes3 comments
    1. Jesse
      Jesse

      Aug '23What I've done in the past (not that I'm an expert in proof sessions, as I rarely do them) is I just straight up ask them. I would say something like "Hey I really love what you got going on. I would love to work on something with you. I can't produce a full song for you, as this is my full time job. However I'd love to do a writing session (or send loops, start an idea ect.) for free with you just to get something started."

    2. Daniel
      Daniel

      Aug '23Nice job so far Matt!

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    1. Nat
      Nat

      Aug '23Nice one !I would take part of your sales framework that you most naturally enjoy talking about and add it to these calls.Some other ideas-Tell stories that build trust (show heart & vulnerability)Tell a success story of a previous client or a cool collab, or your proudest producer momentFind what excites themFind why it excites themSpeak creativelyVisualise a common dream togetherDo what @Jesse said!All of this through the lens that naturally shows your uniqueness & personality!Have fun bro

  11. Daniel
    Daniel

    #win

    Sharing an interview we did with the wonderful @John about his experience here at Dark Label so far. Hope you find some inspiration and lessons from John's story! 27:33

    13 likes2 comments
    1. Matt
      Matt

      Aug '23Good stuff @John !

    2. John
      John

      Aug '23@Raoul Hey Raoul! Figuring out a routine that worked for me was an absolute game-changer. Early on, I struggled to organize my weekly tasks (sessions, meetings, outreach, production, mixing, etc.) and it really slowed me down. Meetings/sessions were scheduled too close together, production sessions were constantly being interrupted by phone calls, emails took days to answer etc.I solved that problem by breaking my week down into dedicated "focus days" which allow me to give my full att... See more

  12. Kensaye
    Kensaye

    Win + Question

    I had a nice win a few days ago: A track placement for an up-and-coming Nigerian singer and it features quite a huge Nigerian rapper on it too (good for the catalogue). Not only that, I got paid my full rate for the production and kept 50% of my publishing. So good deal all round really! ๐Ÿ† When it came to the credit, on Spotify for instance it says produced by myself and the artist manager's name. When I questioned this, the manager said that he came up with the idea/genre for the production and... See more

    11 likes13 comments
    1. Stephen
      Stephen

      Aug '23Fire song! I have never heard of this unless previously agreed as a co-production.

    2. Aaron
      Aaron

      Sep '23@Philip Agree here. It doesn't warrant a co-prod managers are expected to give feedback but rarely take credit. As long as its not eating into your fee structure or publishing then all is well imo

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    1. Daniel
      Daniel

      Sep '23Realized I didn't comment on this. Congrats Kensaye! I dig the song :) Managers can do that sometimes as an 'executive producer' credit. No biggie, as long as your royalty stuff is all set up correct then you're good to go.

    2. Kensaye
      Kensaye

      Sep '23@Denys Thanks my brother!

    3. Denys
      Denys

      Sep '23Congratulations man, this is super super amazing!!!

    4. Kensaye
      Kensaye

      Sep '23@Daniel Thanks brother! I appreciate it! More to come

    5. Kensaye
      Kensaye

      Sep '23@Hรคnz Thanks my guy, Appreciate it. The business is straight, just the credits didn't quite make sense, but oh well!

    6. Hรคnz
      Hรคnz

      Aug '23 (edited)In hiphop this is common when youโ€™re working with an A&R and but not a manager. I havenโ€™t experienced this working in afrobeats but then again I am working with an exec whoโ€™s being crediting on everything but heโ€™s very much involved. Also, to Philโ€™s point, if he and the artist made that business arrangement then thatโ€™s what it is. But, again congrats.๐Ÿ‡ณ๐Ÿ‡ฌ๐Ÿพ

    7. James
      James

      Aug '23Way to go man!!! Sounds so dope! I havnt really heard of a manager being credited as producer but I think Phillip nailed it with "long as the bizz is all good"

    8. Kensaye
      Kensaye

      Sep '23@Philip Yes, a contract signed by both myself and the artist. so all good. Yeah I think he just considers his feedback on the production to be co-production. But as I said, this is the second time this has happened for me. It's kind of strange,

    9. Philip
      Philip

      Aug '23Congrats man! Great song.Co-prod sounds a bit weird. Taking a look at the credits to the other songs it seems that the only other he has prod on is the other record with features on. Guess he sorted that out so he thinks heโ€™s entitled to prod credit. I wouldnโ€™t worry about it too much if the bizz is all good. Have you got pub splits in writing?

    10. Kensaye
      Kensaye

      Sep '23@Stephen Thanks man, same here

    11. Kensaye
      Kensaye

      Sep '23@James Indeed, thanks James ๐Ÿ™

  13. Nathan
    Nathan

    Repeat client already - dang

    Just figured I'd share a win here to encourage. Pretty stoked to have a client I only started with probably 2 weeks ago for three songs that is so happy she's already wanting to have a convo about signing for three more songs so when we track vocals we can also do some writing too. She wasn't super happy with her prior producer and she's already loving what I'm sending her and these songs aren't even done. I think the moral of the story is - do great work. Another $7500 deal. I'm realizing that if I... See more

    25 likes15 comments
    1. John
      John

      Jul '23Wow! How did you approach building out a $7,500 deal with this artist? Did you have do work through any concerns about the pricing or was it the right fit for them?

    2. Nathan
      Nathan

      Jul '23@Chris I'm already booking in advance so I DONT have clients coming out of my ears lol. Not really eager to kill myself with overworking. Been there, done that - I'm ready for a better pace.

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    1. Chris
      Chris

      Jul '23So stoked for you man! A Testament to great craftsmanship. In a month youโ€™re gonna have clients coming out of your ears ๐Ÿ˜‚

    2. Philip
      Philip

      Jul '23Awesome man! Thatโ€™s great. Congrats

    3. Luke
      Luke

      Jul '23Hearing the whole 10 artist goal is encouraging because it is attainable!

    4. Nathan
      Nathan

      Jul '23@Raoul So I'm coming at it from a bit of a different place because I have a following of almost 200k on YouTube so most of my interactions require no rapport building because they already know they want me to work with them. BUT... a lot of it is confidence and leading the conversation - I am using the framework that Dan has in this course here on the calls.Be a solution for them - beyond that I also find that positioning not as just a "service provider" but also a tastemaker is very h... See more

    5. Kevin
      Kevin

      Jul '23very cool congrats bro

    6. Nathan
      Nathan

      Jul '23@Chris Thanks man. Good stuff!

    7. Nathan
      Nathan

      Jul '23@John I didn't really have any objections to the money side.I think when you build rapport before the call even happens - you dont have as any objections.So I have a following of close to 200k on YouTube which undeniably helps. First off - I can't take everyone who comes in - I say "no" to most of the people who want me to produce them because I am just being super selective - so that alone means if I'm getting on a call then they already know that they were almost "selected by me" inst... See more

    8. John
      John

      Jul '23@Nathan Thanks for taking the time to really break all of this down! You've built an impeccable brand and it makes sense that artists see the value in working with you. It's really inspiring to see how you've positioned yourself and how that translates to working with premium clients.This idea is huge:"I'm getting on a call then they already know that they were almost "selected by me" instead of them choosing me which changes the entire conversation."Really appreciate the insight here man, thanks for the words of wisdom!

    9. Nathan
      Nathan

      Jul '23@Imad correct

    10. Daniel
      Daniel

      Jul '23Nice one Nathan! Love the point about doing great work. For you new Dark Label folks... this is why @Aaron puts you through the paces when building portfolio even if it feels frustrating when it's taking long. He's trying to turn ya into a beast. It makes all of the "business stuff" easier down the road.

    11. Nathan
      Nathan

      Jul '23@Daniel Thanks man - blow peoples' faces off = get more work from them

    12. Matt
      Matt

      Jul '23๐Ÿ‘‘. plain and simple. And when this job is complete, we wash and repeat ain't that right King Larsen!!?

    13. Nathan
      Nathan

      Jul '23@Matt Haha that's it.

  14. Luke
    Luke

    Highest paying client!

    A few days ago I landed my highest paying client yet! $750 for a full track! I tried out the SSF call framework with them, which I didn't do amazing on... first time! But they still wanted to work together and I think that it is a great fit! Also recently finished a rough draft for a remix that I'm doing for a band and they loved it! It isn't a paid project but they have a small record label which the remix will be released on. I think it will give me some great opportunities to secure more royalties because they are super focussed on that!

    19 likes12 comments
    1. Denys
      Denys

      Jul '23This is amazing, Luke, congrats!!!! Did you find this client through outreach or met somewhere in person?

    2. James
      James

      Jul '23Way to go!!! Stoked for you!

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    1. Daniel
      Daniel

      Jul '23Great job Luke! Communicating offers takes practice but many times just having a structure at all (SSF) can do the trick.

    2. Luke
      Luke

      Jul '23@Daniel Definitely need to practice and get more reps under my belt!

    3. Daniel
      Daniel

      Jul '23@Luke Get with someone in the group and do some role plays

    4. Philip
      Philip

      Jul '23Awesome! Congrats man

    5. Luke
      Luke

      Jul '23@Jesse Thanks man!

    6. Jesse
      Jesse

      Jul '23Heck yeah ๐Ÿ”ฅ๐Ÿ”ฅ

    7. Matthew
      Matthew

      Jul '23Let's go dude!! ๐Ÿ”ฅ๐Ÿ”ฅ๐Ÿ”ฅ

    8. John
      John

      Jul '23Really great work! Making big moves ๐Ÿ’ช

    9. Matt
      Matt

      Jul '23Congrats, Luke! That's awesome!

    10. Aaron
      Aaron

      Jul '23Love it! Great work Luke

  15. Betty
    Betty

    A Couple (small) Wins

    I set a timeline with my artist to finish a song I'm really excited about! It has been a long and very emotional process. I got so discouraged for a while because he was reluctant to set any goals or agree on a schedule. But I put my fears, insecurities and excuses aside, followed up again, and now things are moving in the right direction. I have been consistent with my AM/PM formulas and started working through the "Artist's Way," which has definitely pushed me out of my comfort zone and already... See more

    12 likes9 comments
    1. Betty
      Betty

      Jul '23@Christian word. Love/hate relationship with them? Has it become any more natural to write so much?

    2. Christian
      Christian

      Jul '23@Betty tbh I don't write that much! nowhere near the three pages she stipulates. I've got a big notebook and tiny writingโ€”I'd be there all morning! I just write until I feel like I've gained clarity on something or processed something. Most days half a page to a page, some days just a few lines. What do you find hard about it, just the quantity?

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    1. John
      John

      Jul '23Love it!

    2. Christian
      Christian

      Jul '23Nice! Love The Artist's Wayโ€”been doing those morning pages for a while! ๐Ÿ™ƒ

    3. Daniel
      Daniel

      Jul '23 (edited)Hell yea man. Thanks for sharing too!

    4. Jesse
      Jesse

      Jul '23Heck yeah ๐Ÿ”ฅ๐Ÿ”ฅ

    5. Betty
      Betty

      Jul '23@Kamil thanks man. I know that creating a lot of short form videos where I perform parts of my songs definitely helped and a few of them got some traction. A few years ago, I scoured the web for radio, blogs, and playlists and pitched to dozens... I think maybe a couple of the features helped a tiny bit, but having people stream my songs from socials helped move the needle (especially because my followers gave me a decent play/save ratio, as compared to strangers that would find my song in... See more

    6. Betty
      Betty

      Jul '23@James Thanks man! Absolutely.

    7. James
      James

      Jul '23Congrats! it's so important to celebrate the wins a long to way to the bigger picture. Love this. Thanks for sharin and keep gettin after it!

  16. Matthew
    Matthew

    Guys, I Got My First $1k+ Song Client

    The title says it all. Just popping in to say I'm thankful for the principles in this group and glad to be here with you all. Charging $1200 for this one and wanted to share it with you all.

    32 likes18 comments
    1. Matthew
      Matthew

      Jul '23@Luke thanks my dude!

    2. Brad
      Brad

      Aug '23Congrats!! Well done! ๐Ÿ‘๐Ÿ‘

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    1. Denys
      Denys

      Aug '23Brooo, this is AWESOME! Big congrats on this!! Waiting on my t successfully closed client ๐Ÿ™

    2. Jesse
      Jesse

      Aug '23Letโ€™s gooooo ๐Ÿ”ฅ๐Ÿ”ฅ๐Ÿ”ฅ

    3. Jack
      Jack

      Aug '23@Matthew No problem bro! Letโ€™s get it!

    4. Matthew
      Matthew

      Aug '23@Jack Thank you bro!

    5. Jack
      Jack

      Aug '23Congrats! I just recently got my first $1200 gig as well. Itโ€™s a good feeling. Enjoy it. Then get back on the field ๐Ÿ’ช๐Ÿฝ

    6. Philip
      Philip

      Jul '23Awesome! Congrats man

    7. Matthew
      Matthew

      Jul '23@Chris Dude, absolutely! I needed to hear this ๐Ÿ˜‚

    8. Chris
      Chris

      Jul '23Congrats man! Soon youโ€™ll be charging 2k+ ๐Ÿ’ฃ

    9. James
      James

      Jul '23Congrats! Way to stick with it and get the win!

    10. Matthew
      Matthew

      Jul '23@Imad ๐Ÿ˜‚

    11. Kevin
      Kevin

      Jul '23Congrats man!

    12. Luke
      Luke

      Jul '23That's awesome! Your killing it!

    13. Matthew
      Matthew

      Jul '23@Daniel exactly! Theyโ€™re getting a cinematographer to do a music video as well. And Iโ€™m going to help him with socialโ€”I really want to help him to be postured to win.

    14. Aaron
      Aaron

      Jul '23amazing nice work!

    15. Daniel
      Daniel

      Jul '23@Matthew Love it!

    16. Daniel
      Daniel

      Jul '23Right on, Matthew! This will allow you to be able to really put the time in and crush it for them. Nice work!

  17. Nat
    Nat

    Top 4 on Soundbetter! (+ 25 Reviews)

    Hey gang, wanted to share this proud moment of mine - I've been working at this for 10 months ! 25 really happy clients in that time & I've learned so much along the way of how to serve better. (For those confused, I know this is a producer community; I'm a vocalist that uses the same Dark Label strategies for my vocal production biz! (where I can))

    18 likes14 comments
    1. Nat
      Nat

      Jul '23@Daniel Yessir ! Poppin pink haha !

    2. Matt
      Matt

      Jul '23Big Nat in the building!

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    1. Nat
      Nat

      Jul '23@Jack Sup fam, yes hit me up if you do!

    2. Jack
      Jack

      Jul '23Oh wow didnโ€™t know you can get on there as a rapper. Thatโ€™s fire. I think I may sign up. Thanks for the motivation bro!

    3. Matthew
      Matthew

      Jul '23@Nat "Can't lose if you're consistently learning" Facts of life man ๐Ÿ”ฅ

    4. Nat
      Nat

      Jul '23@Jamie Hey bro !Results are going to be different for everyone- But I'd say it's worth a 2-3 month investment just to analyse your sales, direct jobs & growth. You'll be able to access 10-50+ prospects in that time that you can sell to via the Job Board.After that time you'll have enough info to really see if it's worth it. You'll learn so much in those 2-3 months if you get a rhythm down for it.Total cost for 3 months is $270 I think (paid monthly).Dedicate a healthy chunk of hours to per... See more

    5. Jamie
      Jamie

      Jul '23BIG W Nat. Would you say it's worth using soundbetter premium?

    6. Philip
      Philip

      Jul '23Amazing man congrats!

    7. Jason
      Jason

      Jul '23@Nat this helps immensely, thank you Nat!! ๐Ÿ™Œ

    8. Nat
      Nat

      Jul '23@Jason My man -Chip away at all angles!For immediate lift-Complete your profile ('interview' section & all details)upgrade to 'pro'Bring in some old/current clients through the system to get more reviews. Cheaper option - upsell them on a $20 high value offer/item that you put through SB. Or try pulling through 50% deposit or settlement payment via SB.Not sure if this is against T&C's but I've done a couple 'review trades' with friends to get started - hire each other for $20 to give a ... See more

    9. Daniel
      Daniel

      Jul '23Awesome. That cover photo we made really pops!

    10. Jason
      Jason

      Jul '23Wooooo!! Congrats! ๐Ÿ™Œ๐ŸผAny tips or advice on how to climb the ranks on Soundbetter?

    11. Matthew
      Matthew

      Jul '23Let's go man! ๐Ÿ’ช๐Ÿป

    12. Nat
      Nat

      Jul '23@Matt My man !

  18. Jack
    Jack

    Finally got a win and its a Big one

    OK so I'm a writer and I tend to be a bit long winded with things, but bare with me. I've been with Dark Label for a while now and I never really succeeded due to me having 101 side hustles but I always saw the potential. It was very nerve racking to decide to join this Producer Incubator but I felt in my gut that it would be the key for me. When I started I did very little outreach due to me deciding to work on my portfolio first. I didn't want wait too long, but I didn't feel my portfolio met m... See more

    21 likes15 comments
    1. Jack
      Jack

      Jul '23 (edited)@Daniel Haha that is a good name for a band lol Thanks man! Just getting off the starting blocks. Time to go hard, getting back to my morning formula as well.

    2. Daniel
      Daniel

      Jul '23Love it @Jack this is awesome. Thanks for sharing! And "101 Side Hustles" sounds like a cool band name :) Keep up the good work! Stoked that you found a great fit client. Cherish that relationship and make some magic.

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    1. Isaiah
      Isaiah

      Jul '23"only people you wouldn't mind going to dinner and hanging out with." thanks man, that's a clear way to picture it

    2. Jack
      Jack

      Jul '23@Isaiah Absolutely. I feel like its not easy to work with someone you can't find a vibe with. All my best clients in the video biz became my friends. I don't know why I thought this would be any different.

    3. James
      James

      Jul '23Love to hear "it's so much simpler" than you thought. That's the biggest win you can have right there. Stoked for you!!!

    4. Jack
      Jack

      Jul '23@Tyson Yeah there has to be some you can connect with out of the millions of artists out there. Just gotta have an abundant mindset rather than a scarcity mindset

    5. Tyson
      Tyson

      Aug '23@Jack that is a fact ma man thank you๐Ÿ‘Œ๐Ÿพ

    6. Jack
      Jack

      Jul '23@James Thanks man! Your method of outreach is what I used! I appreciate you bro!

    7. Jack
      Jack

      Aug '23@Nat yessir! Cheers!

    8. Nat
      Nat

      Aug '23Awesome, love that! Congrats here's to 10 more like that

    9. James
      James

      Aug '23@Jack Np man!

    10. Jack
      Jack

      Jul '23@Alex Thanks man!

    11. Tyson
      Tyson

      Jul '23That story was mad encouraging bro thank you for sharing, and dinner line really resonated you should never force a clientele base itโ€™s gotta be natural.

    12. Jack
      Jack

      Jul '23@Jason yeah itโ€™s really not far fetched at all. Just gotta keep meeting artists. Outreach and content every week

    13. Jason
      Jason

      Jul '23Awesome job man, congratulations! I love the perspective of just needing 10 more like her to have a pretty good living - it makes it feel attainable. These posts are so motivating. ๐Ÿ™Œ๐Ÿผ

  19. Isaiah
    Isaiah

    WATCH THE REPLAYS

    due to my current full time schedule i've been missing the majority of the calls/streams. in the past, my default reaction has been to beat myself up for "not doing things right" and be worse off than where i started. but now, i'm accepting where i'm currently at, watching the replays when i can't make the calls, and DUDES. there is SO MUCH GAME in here. i had no idea what i was missing. just listening to the conversation encourages me to double down and keep putting the work in. so to anybody els... See more

    15 likes7 comments
    1. Isaiah
      Isaiah

      Jun '23 (edited)@Chris walks are good for the soul man

    2. Aaron
      Aaron

      Jun '23@Nick most welcome!

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    1. Aaron
      Aaron

      Jun '23love the energy here guys!

    2. Nick
      Nick

      Jun '23Same here, I find myself always taking notes as I jump into re-watching the streams, thank you guys for uploading them! ๐Ÿ‘พ

    3. Kensaye
      Kensaye

      Jun '23I can relate! I haven't attended a call in ages. My schedule makes it difficult, but replays are the way to go!

    4. Daniel
      Daniel

      Jun '23Love the advice @Isaiah ! And overtime weโ€™ll be adding more and more in hopes that at least 1 per week works for everyone schedule wise.

    5. Jack
      Jack

      Jun '23Hell yeah these replays are everything! I do a lot of things so I miss most of them but being able to play them back is definitely valuable.

  20. Alex

    First Sales Call

    Landed my first sales call via IG this morning; it's scheduled for tomorrow. Ultimately, I landed the call because the artist seems to have a slow moving trajectory for their next single release. So I asked what's holding them back from moving forward with more records...which was money. That gave me something to go forward with and ask if they'd be open to hop on a call with me to talk about what they expect from a music producer. It's been a bit of a slow road for me to get on the outreach trai... See more

    4 likes5 comments
    1. Alex

      Jun '23@Luke cool, thanks for the advice. Iโ€™ll remember that on my call!

    2. Daniel
      Daniel

      Jun '23Aaaaaye that's awesome Alex!

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    1. Luke
      Luke

      Jun '23Congrats! Looks like you tapped into their problems which is good! On my first one I learned that I need to do better at leading the conversation myself. Still working on it!

    2. Chris

      Jun '23Congrats!!

    3. Nick
      Nick

      Jun '23Congrats, keep em' coming! ;)